Learn, Make, Learn
Learn, Make, Learn is two product geeks sharing qualitative & quantitative perspectives to help you make, better. Hosted by Ernest Kim and Joachim Groeger.
Episodes
20 episodes since 2024
A New Episode Format!
We introduce a new, shorter, more off-the-cuff format focused on recommendations that we hope you’ll enjoy. Also, our apologies for the audio getting a bit crunchy in spots—we’re working hard to improve our audio quality. Please do let us know ...
September 11, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 20
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40:09
Generative AI x Product with Anmol Anubhai
Generative AI: step change or snake oil du jour? We enter this mire with Anmol Anubhai as our guide & insight into the future of GenAI x product creation as our destination. Join us for a refreshingly grounded conversation on a topic that’s...
July 18, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 19
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1:10:14
The Weight of History
The pressure to repeat history, as in the previous year’s sales for a given product, can be pernicious. We share ideas for unshackling yourself from this weight so that you can avoid, as Marshall McLuhan put it, marching backwards into the futu...
June 07, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 18
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1:16:40
The Perils of Fan Service
The concept of fan service, which originated in anime and is now common across media, has pervaded the world of product creation as well. We discuss what it is & why it’s vital to serve your customers without pandering to them.FO...
May 23, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 17
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1:02:26
Enough *Is* Enough
When it comes to products and product innovation, in our new era of higher-for-longer interest rates, enough *is* enough.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:23
May 03, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 16
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1:09:28
Daniel Kahneman: Lessons & Critiques
Daniel Kahneman, credited as a grandfather of behavioral economics, passed away in March, and we devote this episode to an unfiltered discussion of his legacy through a product lens.KAHNEMAN’S LEGACY: THE BULL CASE – 01:55
April 25, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 15
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51:37
Design Thinking: Failure or Fall Guy?
A decade ago, design thinking was all the rage across the corporate world. But, today, it's widely derided as a failed experiment. Is there still a place for design thinking or is it an idea whose time has passed?FOLLOW-UPS – 01:...
April 17, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 14
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58:57
Time to Learn
Apologies for our delay this week! In this episode, with the Watches & Wonders show around the corner, we talk watches & the broader lessons we can draw from a product category rooted entirely in emotion.WRIST CHECK – 02:...
April 05, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 13
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1:03:24
Should Products be Political?
This week, we tackle a thorny topic: Should products be political? And to be clear, we don't mean brand messaging. Instead, our focus is products, and whether makers should intentionally imbue their products with their politics.FOLLO...
March 27, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 12
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56:33
Scenius or Genius?
Musician Brian Eno defined a scenius as “the intelligence of a whole operation or group of people,” in contrast to the classic archetype of the lone genius. We debate scenius vs. genius in the context of product—is one more conducive to innovat...
March 21, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 11
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57:51
Can Restomod Culture Go Mainstream?
This week, we talk restomods. It’s a concept born of the automotive world—extending the life of a classic car by modernizing it—but we discuss the potential to apply this idea to categories beyond cars. With sustainability now a must-have in pr...
March 14, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 10
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1:07:21
CarPlay or the Highway?
This week, we discuss the tension between integrated in-car UX platforms vs Apple’s CarPlay & Android Auto. When, if ever, does it make sense to give up control of your product experience?FOLLOW-UPS – 02:21
March 06, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 9
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1:12:30
WTF is a Product Manager?
This week, we dive into Ernest's career as a product manager/product marketer and discuss what a product manager does, how to sift meaningful insights from the noise, how to enter the field & much more.FOLLOW-UPS – 02:25<...
February 28, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 8
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1:09:41
WTF is an Applied Microeconomist?
This week, we dive into Joachim's career as an applied microeconomist. What does an applied microeconomist do, how is it relevant to product innovation, how do you enter the field, and much more!FOLLOW-UPS – 01:43
February 21, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 7
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1:09:46
Experimentation in Product Innovation
In this episode, we challenge tech industry dogma around A/B testing & Minimum Viable Products (MVPs), and propose alternatives better suited to today’s post-low interest rate economy.FOLLOW-UPS – 01:41
February 14, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 6
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1:08:31
The Perils of Crossing Over from Niche to Mainstream
We dig into the perils of crossing over from niche to mainstream. How can a brand built on a niche product or service successfully expand its appeal? Should this even be an aspiration?FOLLOW-UPS – 01:24
February 08, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 5
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46:06
When Values & Opportunity Collide
Ernest & Joachim dive into the dilemma faced when a promising business opportunity conflicts with your own or your company's values. The duo offer perspectives on how to navigate this conflict, including tools you can apply to your day-to-d...
January 31, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 4
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38:51
Toolbox: How “Jobs To Be Done” Can Help You Make, Better
Ernest & Joachim share a deep-dive on the jobs to be done approach to customer-centric product & service innovation. They explain what it is & why it matters, share real world examples of jobs-to-be-done in action, and highlight sit...
January 24, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 3
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40:36
Apple Vision Pros & Cons
Ernest & Joachim debate Apple Vision Pro: Does it represent “the beginning of a new era for computing,” or will it offer more proof that VR is an answer to a question no one’s asking? E & J then highlight lessons that can be applied to ...
January 17, 2024
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Season 1
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Episode 2
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55:11